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wolf1095 · Dec 19, 2010, 05:04 PM // 17:04

What is the best HA sin build of these three that are on PVX Wikia:
-A/W Coward Pressure
-A/W Assault Assassin
-A/E Way of the Assassin

If you know any better ones that work greater, than please feel free to let me know.

domaspiragas · Dec 19, 2010, 05:30 PM // 17:30

The best way is not to use a Sin in HA.

Loki Seiguro · Dec 19, 2010, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Depends on several factors...but I'd say WotA sin is one of the best. High DPS rate but can be countered with strip enchant.

Champen · Dec 19, 2010, 05:54 PM // 17:54

i heard warriors with daggers are good.

wolf1095 · Dec 19, 2010, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by domaspiragas

The best way is not to use a Sin in HA.

Sorry, but you know something.... I wasn't exactly asking whether or not a sin should be used in HA or not.. was asking the best build to use. You can go ahead and use w/e profession with w/e build you want, and I'll do the same. OK? Good... now that we have that straight, if anyone else would like to be a loser and say something totally unrelated to my question, then just quit while your ahead.

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

Depends on several factors...but I'd say WotA sin is one of the best. High DPS rate but can be countered with strip enchant.

Thanks for the advice, thats the build I was originally going to try, just wanted to make sure. Thanks. And thank god someone had common sense to stick with the original topic.

wolf1095 · Dec 19, 2010, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by Champen

i heard warriors with daggers are good.

Really? REALLY? Now we are on the topic of Warriors! Champen, please look at my post to domaspiragas to know exactly what i'm thinking of you. Since as you can see, i am NOT a warrior. Maybe if you mean to RUN an assassin/warrior build as a SIN, then I understand and forgive you. Otherwise, your post is irrelevant to my question.

wolf1095 · Dec 19, 2010, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Please people, use common sense before you post. If your going to post something stupid and irrelevant to what I am asking, then just please don't waste your time by posting at all. Thank You for understanding.

Spiritz · Dec 19, 2010, 06:17 PM // 18:17

I dont do pvp but im guessing a major factor in which build to use is the team setup - im sure these days ha teams use team builds rather than individual builds so it may depend on what everyone else is running.

wolf1095 - chill as most on guru knows that soon as you start to feed a troll ( instead of ignoring them ) they feed off you and then multiply and before you know it a simple thread gets closed by ops and the quest for info gets killed.

wolf1095 · Dec 19, 2010, 06:49 PM // 18:49

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

I dont do pvp but im guessing a major factor in which build to use is the team setup - im sure these days ha teams use team builds rather than individual builds so it may depend on what everyone else is running.

wolf1095 - chill as most on guru knows that soon as you start to feed a troll ( instead of ignoring them ) they feed off you and then multiply and before you know it a simple thread gets closed by ops and the quest for info gets killed.

Thanks for your advice. And also, they can troll all the want. It wont get them anywhere. They'll just be wasting their time as I can easily ignore any other posts made by them. And anyone with common sense would know not to care about whether you "feed" a troll, as they are just noobs who want an audience and are trying to be cool, seeing as if you have a strong enough willpower, it wont get to you. But either way, they are just wasting their time. Besides, I already have acquired most of, if not all of of the information I need just by reading your post and Loki Seiguro's post, as well as some knowledge about the builds that I already have. So they're noob trolling won't affect me one bit.

X Ghoul · Dec 19, 2010, 07:15 PM // 19:15

There is no best ha sin build, just like there is no best ha team build. But in those 3 builds in particular it really depends on what team build your running (your team won't win if you have 7 garbage players and your the only one running a "good build").

Fate Crusher · Dec 19, 2010, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Best sin in HA?

BBwar.

Loki Seiguro · Dec 19, 2010, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Good to see a WoTU member here..maybe real or not

Anyway since people don't seem to be explaining the BBwar:

BBway uses the war skill of backbreaker (BBwar team is 3 wars usually with 2 BB and 1 with earthshaker) and then the rest of the skills are sin dagger attacks (+1 warrior IAS..flail? or w/e)

sins in HA aren't too common anymore though so if you don't have much HA experience I would suggest you go into looking at BBwars (if you wanna play a sin type character [sin substitute]. Sins are still used in the WoTA way team build and fragspike.

wolf1095 · Dec 19, 2010, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Thank You.

Vapor_Fighter · Dec 19, 2010, 10:49 PM // 22:49

It all depends on what the rest of the team is running

Asda che ti Passa · Dec 20, 2010, 08:51 AM // 08:51

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

Good to see a WoTU member here.

lolwut?!?

daggers sin arent worth that much anymore after the several nerfs. still the best on the 3 you said is the wota.

kedde · Dec 20, 2010, 10:32 AM // 10:32

^What's so weird about that?

Assasins are bad.

Otello · Dec 20, 2010, 11:08 AM // 11:08

wolf1905, from you questions and discussion it seems you are kindly new in HA. So I will tell you some advices, if you are not new you can skip this part of the post and go to the last part.
There is no a best build for a profession, since what you run depends also on the rest of your team. You can not run a iway warrior, outside the iway team e.g., because it would be almost useless.
If you are interested in doing pvp seriously, forget to stick to your profession, start to think that there are essentially 3 role: frontline, midline and backline. Decide wich of the three is more feasible for you, and learn most build in that role. This because, if you are going to pug, and not to create your own team, you are not free to do whatever you want, since people espect precise build and team build, and if you dont play them, they disband.

RETURNING OT: For now, the most used build for assassins is wota, and is ussually used in a team with this composition:

2 wota
2 esurge
1 blinder
1 mb ele
2 monks (prot and infuser)

So if you want to start you own team using your assassin I suggest you to make the team above, so people will find something that they know and wont disband after 20 seconds (hopefully)

Infectious · Dec 21, 2010, 02:53 AM // 02:53

A/P with spear > all

Sins in HA are a joke.

Fate Crusher · Dec 23, 2010, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

Good to see a WoTU member here..maybe real or not

Made me lol. You made a typo. *Officer.

Champen and I regularly post on these forums.

Anyways, The only play an assassin sees with reasonable success would be the Deep Wound spam for Frag spike teams (sometimes considered caller, sometimes the frag mes). Some teams run dervishes but it seems to be pretty evenly split on guilds who prefer an Assassin for criticals or a Derv for longer IAS. (Both can run with Dash).

Other than the WotA-way that gets regularly stomped nowadays after Burst got buffed and also the sin chain is minutely weakened by the balance. But to be honest, you will not learn much from forming these WotA teams. As a sin, you're only asked to spam dps on the party as much as possible. You only become effective because of the e-surge mesmers facerolling all over the other team's backline, whilst you faceroll all over the place, whilst bsurge facerolls on frontline and your mb ele uses MB repeatedly on Ghost.

Motor Fist · Dec 23, 2010, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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Originally Posted by Fate Crusher

As a sin, you're only asked to spam dps on the party as much as possible. You only become effective because of the e-surge mesmers facerolling all over the other team's backline, whilst you faceroll all over the place, whilst bsurge facerolls on frontline and your mb ele uses MB repeatedly on Ghost.

I am by no means an expert but couldnt this be said about anyone the e surge is only effective because the b surge is keeping frontliners off him and monks are proting and healing or something like that. It seems to me and again im no expert but the makeup of any team is what makes any one prof more or less viable to the group.